O Rly?

[»42«°ÊvïLKyLê]

humans are like roaches, no matter how many times you think you have killed them all you always end up finding one more


yeah, now it's gonna get interesting. I am religious too, but I would rather watch this friendly dispute from the sidelines

[.ø2k»!]MástèrÄkìá[!«]

its not my forum but the rule are pretty dumb thats all i got to say.
If skittle hasnt told you he tryede out for my clan, and i told him he made it. but he said he wanted to talk to you first cubano, and he agrees that the rules are dumb, aight lata

[«42»«Baron_Fel]

Actually, it is sientifically impossible for two humans to continue the human race. Interbreeding of this magnitude would lead to such huge medical problems that they would not survive. For example, english royalty about 200 ( give or take 100) years ago. They interbred marrying cousins and the like to keep there famliy the royal family but the all ended up with that one disease where your blood wont clot and one cut can kill you.

I know what your thinking, what about Adam and Eve. Just remember that the diseases that exist know didnt exist then or were not mutated to the extent that they are now or were in different parts of the world. Oh yeah and that they could live 900 years.

If you guys want to hear more about this stuff, I can post some links to threads on the Christian Crew forums where much smarter people than me talk much more inteligently about said topics.

~Baron

[»42«°ÊvïLKyLê]

barton just owned everyone

[Izzo]

i knew someone would bring it up baron

but the adam and eve thing is a stretch, you say they didnt "mutate" but christians are totally against the idea of evolution. now evolution has been proven time and time again. why do i not believe in the beliefs of the catholic church? there are too many flaws.

heres an example.. when g0d created the earth it took 5 days.. or 7 or w/e.. but anyway where do dinosaurs come into that? why was there millions of years of our earth but somehow humans were there on the 5th day? there is no proof at all that there were humans back then, they would find remains, just like they find the remains of anchient creatures. and speaking of ancient creatures.. birds evolved from dinosaurs, and it is proven. another flaw about evolution.

[.ø2k»!]MástèrÄkìá[!«]

lol, i think is all flase, i think chucke norris came across this universe and made earth then he made women, and he made whats today, and time is becuase of how fast he around hose kicks, lol... w/e i really dont care how or who made it.

[»42«°ÊvïLKyLê]

First of all you are mixing creationism with evoluton. In creationism The dinasaurs were created at the same time as the other animals and man and dinasaur were on the earth at the same time. According to creationism the earth is only between 7000-9000 yrs old. Birds did not come from dinasaurs. And if evolution were true how come there are no NEW species being discovered today? The only place we discover new animals bugs etc is in placed we have not explored intensivly. But it would make good sense that you could watch animals evolve in the usa, in the zoo's in reserves, but of course you never see that happening. If evolution were true things would not evolve for a few million years or few thousand yrs and then all of a sudden stop.

[Izzo]

evilkyle said:

First of all you are mixing creationism with evoluton. In creationism The dinasaurs were created at the same time as the other animals and man and dinasaur were on the earth at the same time. According to creationism the earth is only between 7000-9000 yrs old. Birds did not come from dinasaurs. And if evolution were true how come there are no NEW species being discovered today? The only place we discover new animals bugs etc is in placed we have not explored intensivly. But it would make good sense that you could watch animals evolve in the usa, in the zoo's in reserves, but of course you never see that happening. If evolution were true things would not evolve for a few million years or few thousand yrs and then all of a sudden stop.

im not sure what your point is, you are proving that creationism is false but it sounds like you support it?

why dont we see animals evolve that are in zoos etc? well look at dogs, they came from wolves, they were made pets at some time and now if we released our dogs into the wild they would die. evolution is changing over time to adapt to your environment. why do you think ppl that were born up north can stand cold whether better? it is a very very small example of evolution.

ill bring it up again, dogs are one of the best examples that evolution is true, that it does exist, and that it affects creatures immensely.

now you say creationism and evolution are different.. well yes it is.. but you also say according to creationism the world is only 9000 years old? you would have to be the stupidest person on earth to believe that.. im sorry but i cant understand how people believe it.

if i interperated your post wrong i am sorry, it is a very confusing and debated subject

[»42«°ÊvïLKyLê]

lol dogs are not proof of evelution, its proof of adaption. Evolution is a physical change in the body of an animal.

There is no more proof that the earth is millions of years old then there is proof of creation.

One easy way to disprove the earth of being millions of years old is this.

Every year the sun shrinks by 1 inch, i balieve thats the size vs timing, but anywyz it's shrinking at a constant rate none of the less. If the earth was millions of years old then you would have to reverse the decreasing size of the sun and add all those inches to the size of the sun. After doing this the Sun would almost be touching the earth. Life would not have been possible millions of years ago with the sun that close. We would not have had an ice age...we would of had a solar age, but that's still not possible because nothing would have been able to live on earth to begin with.

And don't say evolution allowed animals to adapt to 1000 degree weather, because it's impossible.

[Izzo]

you say there is no proof of it being around millions of years? well the way scientists can tell how old earth is, is from rocks.

now dont say its impossible to tell from rocks, it makes more sense than measuring the sun.. which you brought up.

i would seriously like to know how they find that the sun shrinks, seeing how we cant get close to it at all.

[»42«°ÊvïLKyLê]

Do some research to disprove me if you like, but you will find I am accurate.

just read this if you are interested in more logical answers then I can give. (this link has nothing to do wit the sun as far as I know, more about rocks and just logic)

www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/earthage.html

If you don't read through this it mearly shows that you are more interested in a dispute then truth.

[[42]Indra]

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fast entering into religious flame war territory. RETREAT OR BURN!
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[«42»Cuban]

Indra, I see where your concern is coming from. I will lock the thread before it becomes a flaming.

As for me, I will bring more up to disprove the theoy of evolution. (evolution is a theory because no one has proven it and no one can).

[«42»ÚR`Ügly°]

Foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

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[«42»ÚR`Ügly°]

I like the link you posted Evil

www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/earthage.html

[Izzo]

perhaps it is time to end the argument


there is a reason religion and science fight, there is a reason they are still fighting.

what is it? the two sides are both too ignorant of the other, and they would never even think about conceding.

for a little background on me.. I believe in G0d.. but i do not believe in the bible. to me it is all a story, that in time was thought to be truth. it is obvious that you are all against me on this and i respect your opinions, even if i think you are wrong.

my biggest peeve about religion is that some people become very very brainwashed, but same can be said about the opposite of religion.. atheists can be crazy too. IMO anyone over-zealous is dangerous and out of line, whether it be for religion or something else.

the things stated in the bible are good and bad imo, the lessons and values you can learn are very good and can be applied to everyday life. but some of the stories are a stretch.

i didnt intend this to become a religous debate but it has, and i will continue to read and give my opinion on all of your posts while keeping an open mind.


also i just saw scary movie 4 and it was the funniest thing ev0r

[«42»ÚR`Ügly°]

Iz,

I have seen previews of Scary Movie 4 and it looks like a hoot...I've got see it now that you have reviewed it favorably.



Cya,
Ugs

[«42»ÚR`Ügly°]

Iz,

I agree, "perhaps it is time to end the argument," but since we’re sharing…

I also think the “religion and science fight” is getting old…let’s be patient, time will prove it out.
I wouldn’t say that I’m ignorant of either side and seeing what both have to offer, I have made my decision as I assume most people have.

I’m not hackin’ you, I’m just giving you my thoughts…to believe in G.od and not the word of G.od was a new one to me. I don’t see how you can have one without the other because they both bare witness of each other. I am not “against you” …I also respect your thoughts on the matter, however I can be just as dogmatic in believing that though you are sincere…you are sincerely wrong.

Since we’re sharing our peeves….my biggest peeve about “religions” is that they are man’s ideas of holiness, created to build himself up, which usually result in proud looks and puffed up attitudes, and don’t line up with the word of G.od…what’s the point? They are no different than any other organization, club or clan.

As far as the “things stated in the Bible”… I believe The Bible is the word of G.od, it is infallible, it is complete, it is inspired, it is proven, and it is consistent. You can not say that about any other authority in the universe. For this reason I evaluate, weigh, and address all issues with the Word of G.od.

(If you would like some very interesting statistics about the accuracy of the Bible, I have a short 3 paragraph summary on my website -- posted 4-14-06 aa1611.blogspot.com/ )

Likewise, I didn't intend to partake of a "religious debate" as I am not one to "beat" anyone with my beliefs, though I am not ashamed...the topic arose ...thus a reply

Cya,
Ugs

[Izzo]

ugly after reading the paragraph on your site i will thus provide a competing stance.. whether you are right or wrong.

many predictions that people think are divine becuase they some how come true are so vaguely stated that it would be a miracle if they didnt come true.. example;

"In 100 years there will be a great tragedy that will effect many countries and hurt the economy greatly"

i just made that up.. but what im saying is tragedy happens, all the time, and on a large scale. mostly predictions are of tragedy for this reason, that they will most likely be so vague that people will think it was a divine force that caused this.

and as for you saying that its weird to believe in g0d but not the bible.. the reason for this is that i think the bible is just a story, a story of partially true events that were skewed and said to be a divine being controlling it or w/e.

the last thing i would like to touch on about your page is this.. and this has always really bothered me.. if there is only one true g0d and if we believe in any other we will be banished to hell.. then what about the people that were born into a family of a different religion? where they were raised to know another way, and perhaps never heard of the catholic church.


and be honest with me ugly.. you were born into a catholic family.. if you were born into a buddist family it is highly doubtful that you would be worshing g0d right now.

[Izzo]

admin said:

(evolution is a theory because no one has proven it and no one can).

as is g0d